Making a plan
Subject Making a plan
OOC: All right, time for a vote. Those in favor of opening the door and trying to deal with what comes out with Harp, Ragnar's, Allistair, and Kal's spells, while Mund runs in an looks around Say Aye,
Those who want to go back to the main room and try a harder room and come back to this when the spell casters can be sure they have the right spells to deal with it, Say Nay.
Mark, when Sakeriver updated, I lost the spells I had memorized for "today" did you print that off?
If so, who had what? Or do we get a Muligan on the spells?
From: Karl
Subject Making a plan
Salix still has Call Lightening. Does he know if that would work against incorporeal creatures? What does Salix know about such things at all?
(Salix will ultimately go along with whatever the group decides, unless a knowledge check gives him something pertinent to add.)
From: Jason
Subject Making a plan
Does call lightning work indoors?
From: Derek
Subject Making a plan
OOC: I'm for getting it now while we're here, but first, what kind of magic pluses doe the warriors have on thier weapons?
From: Kevin
Subject Making a plan
OOC: Kal and Harp both have +1 weapons, so could do some damage (there is some miss chances, but they are better than those with the normal weapons). Harp (and Ragnar) also has spiritual weapon and Kal has Magic Missle, as does Allistair.
Here is a proposal.
The group is centered around Ragnar, who is ready to cast Circle against Evil. Harp can cast protection from evil on Mund if he wants. Mund will open the door and then dash back to where we all are. Harp and Kal are in the front line. We can attack it with our weapons and our spells, while Allistair does the same thing with his MM spells. I think the Protection Circle is large enough to cover us all, but I will leave that to Ragnar to determine.
If all are amenable, I will have Harp, in conjunction with the others, come up with this plan.
From: Mark
Subject Making a plan
It actually says in the spell description that the spell/prayer works indoors.
From: Randy
Subject Making a plan
"If that is the plan we are going with, then perhaps those of us with no magical weaponry should retreat to the main room so as not to endanger the mission more than is absolutely necessary. We could start investigating one of the other doors to gather information for our next encounter."
Ranthir will go along with whatever Harp decides.
From: Jason
Subject Making a plan
The spell has a 10 foot radius, so yes we could all fit inside it and still fight. It also lasts 50 minutes, so we might even be able to make it last into the next battle if we hurry.
From: Porter
Subject Making a plan
Mund doesn't care either way. He's happy to serve as bait, and he's equally willing to wait and do it later when the magickers are better prepared.
Mund has no magic weapons, so he will be offenceless. That's OK. He's very fleet of foot (Barbarian, light armour) and makes a better rabbit than anybody else.
From:Ashley
Subject Making a plan
Surin votes yay, trusting that the wizards and druids are prepared for what lies ahead. However, if any of them feel unprepared in any way, shape, or form, he recommends them saying so *now*, before the door is opened.
From: Kevin
Subject Making a plan
Harp goes around to each of the members, trying to get an idea of how they would like to proceed. There seems to be some agreement that they may be able to overcome, or at least go around, the thing in the room. After a few minutes of discussion, Harp proposes the following
"I think we have the basics of a plan, but it carries some risks, especially for those of you that don't have magical weapons, so I will let you decide how you want to help.
Those of us who are to stay will arrange ourselves around Ragnar - Kal and me up front, Allistair to the rear. Mund, after I give him what blessings of the Battle Lord that are available to me, will open the door, and then retreat from the creature while we try to deal with it using our grace and spells. Brother Ragnar will have called upon Heironious to provide us with a circle of protection that we believe will protect us from this creature while we deal with it.
The rest of you can either wait here or, if you want, head back to the main room to start exploring some of the other hallways. I think, though, that the three of you (Ran, Salix, and Surin) should be of one mind on this - either you all stay or you all go. I don't want one or two of us wondering around without some backup close by. If the worse happens to us, and you will probably hear us, try to get free and report back to the Order."
OOC: Does this work? There are numerous spells Harp and Ragnar can use - on Mund Protection from evil and Shield of Faith, on us Magic Cirle/Evil, Spiritual Weapons, Allistair and Kal can both use MM, and Kal and Harp can use their regular magic weapons. I think this can work.
From: Jason
Subject Making a plan
Ragnar has a flask of holy water that could be used as well, though its nothing special and suffers the same miss chance as a magic weapon. But he'll have it on hand in case things get rowdy. Ragnar's good with the plan though.
From: Porter
Subjectg: Making a plan
OOC: Mudn can move, for free, through squares occupied by his friends, right?
Mund will try to lead whatever's behind the door back to his companions. If it starts attacking somebody else, he'll circle around and try to grab the key.
Mund has a vial of holy water as well. He'll ready it in his belt, put up his axe, and carry his shield and torch.
From: Porter
Subject" Making a plan
Mund has an idea. He pulls out his hunting knife and shows it to the group.
"This is a special knife. It's not magick, but a smithy friend of mine said that it is "cold iron", and has the ability to harm some magick creatures that normal weapons cannot. Could this knife hurt whatever's behind that door?"
From: Ashley
Subject Making a plan
I like how Mund pronounces the 'k' in 'Magick'. :P
Surin is all for going somewhere else with Ran and Salix while the rest take care of the undead thing. He doesn't have the slightest thing that could have an effect on the thing, and he can be of more use doing something else, like listening at doors. :)
From: Derek
Subject Making a plan
Allistair looks at the knife and considers it. "I cannot say for sure, but I doubt that this knife would be effective. Although I have heard of certain creatures having weaknesses against this cold iron, my studeis of incorporeal creatures never mentioned them being susceptible to this cold iron, only weapons with actual magic enchantments. Unless this knife also has a magical enchantment put upon it, I would err on the side of caution and assume that it would just pass right through the creature.
From: Porter
Subject Making a plan
"OK, thanks." Back to the holy water.
From: Mark
Subject Making a plan
Their training gives them the power to summon the weapon. They have no training on what it would be usefull against.
They were never trained as hunters of incorpreal or more powerful undead. That is specialized business.
And please note you guys mentioned undead first. It is true that several mid and high level undead are or can be incorpreal, but there are many other creatures out there that can also be incorpreal.
From: Josh
Subject Making a plan
Kal thinks we should open the door. If we are going to, then he'll cast "Bull's Strength" right before we do.
From: Porter
Subject Making a plan
I thought that Salix was going to stay and use his "Call lightining" spell.
From: Kevin
Subject Making a plan
OOC: Mark, is my plan clear enough for you? I think the conclusion is that Ran, Salix and Surin (sorry Karl) will go back to the main room and start looking down other hallways.
I think my description of our plan was good enough. Mund can either run out of the room or he can try to enter inside the Magic Circle Ragnar places (it moves with Ragnar, right?). Harp can (and will offer to) place Protection from Evil on Mund. Harp will cast Bless on the group as Ragnar is doing his thing and then cast Spiritual Weapon when it seems most effective (creature is within range, etc.)
From: Kevin
Subject Making a plan
OOC: I guess he can. We are in a pretty small area. I am not sure Harp would want lighting bolts zapping around in this space. I will leave it up to Karl - will you stay or will you go now. If you stay there will be trouble, if you go it will be double.
When worlds Clash.
From: Karl
Subject Making a plan
Salix will do as Harp decides.
(OOC - Call Lightening shouldn't be a problem. The bolts come straight down from above to strike the target, so to my knowledge this should mean they are no danger to use in melee. Mark, is this true?)