Subject Grappling rules

Ok here is what I have decided.

When being grappled and pinned, the pinned creature looses its DEX bonus to AC and has an additional -4 to AC. The pinner, in this case Mund, also has a few problems to AC but since there are no other creatures to attack him and the other creature is pinned, those problems are moot.

The grappling rules talk about attacking while in a grapple with light weapons. I view this as talking about how fast a weapon can be used in up close and personal combat, face to face. There is no direct talk about a third person using a weapon from outside the two grappling to attack one of the two grapplers. So I am going to make a house rule. Some one outside the grapple who attacks into the grapple with any weapon other than a light one takes a -2. Someone useing a light weapon has no penalty.

While I still think that there is a small chance for those outside to hit their ally, I am going to rule that if the attacker from outside rolls a natural 1 on the attack roll, that they have "Fumbled" the attack and that then there is a chance they have hit thier ally. The outside attacker then has to roll another natural 1 to hit thier ally. So for the outside person to hit thier ally they would have to roll two natural 1's in a row. It could happen but very unlikely. Depending on the armor class of the pinnned/grappled creature it is also possible for this attack to hit both grapplers. Sort of like a sword being stuck through one and into the other.

I hope this is ok with every one.

I will write up turn 5 in a little bit.

Subject Round 5

Round 5 Initiative: Kal (24), Harp (20), Ranthir (19), Mund (19), Allistair (18), Ragnar (18), Surin (9), GargoyleJ7(5) Salix (3).

As Kal finishes his attack he watches Harp's sword burst from the stomach of the gargoyle. The creature falls to the ground when Harp kicks the body off his sword. "Let's help Mund with the last one. You take this side, I'll take the other. Strike when I say go." Kal nods and steps forward and a bit to his right. Harp makes an almost identical move, but backing up instead of stepping forward.

As the two move into position the hear Mund screaming. "I got you, you sumbitch. You ain't goin nowhere." Looking up from his pinning of the gargoyle Mund shouts "Come on you two, what're waiting for? An invitation? Kill this thing.". The creature struggles in Mund's powerful grip but is unable to get free. Mund spins the pinned creature so that the two have a clear shot and almost as one the two strike (Harp:AC10, 4+12=16, hit, damage 13, Kal: AC10, 18+12=30, hit, critical threat, critical threat roll, AC10, 16+12=28, hit, critical hit, damage 14). The weapons flash and drive deep into the flesh of the beast. It shudders and convulses and falls limp in Mund's arms.

The barbarian shouts in exultation and turns the beast in his arms until he is looking at the blunt face. "What do you think of that? Don't need no stinking magic to kill you" and with that Mund tosses the body into a pile with the others.

OODM: End of fight. Let me know if there is anything else you would like to do before I write up the search of the room.