An alternate plan, DR
Subject An alternate plan
Josh, how is elf boy going to respond?
We are waiting with baited breath.
From: Josh
Subject An alternate plan
OOC: I've been thinking about this all night, I'll have a turn out today before 2:00 for sure.
Mark, this is a big estate. Do we know how they guard it? Can we see anything preventing us from just walking right up to one of those barns?
From: Mark
Subject An alternate plan
It is a large estate, in land size. The main building and the surrounding buildings are set on a rather large section of the estate. The main section of the estate is guareded by a large stone wall out by the street, with the one main gate to get in. The general grounds are patrolled by foot patrolls and the stone wall is patrolled by mounted patrolls. No one knows the schedule of the patrols.
From: Josh
Subject An alternate plan
Kal listens to what the others have to say, thinks for a while, and then responds:
I have not been entirely unconvinced by your words, but I don't think that it's correct to say our bodies are just shells. That would leave no explanation for the intricate rituals we are required by our Gods to perform on the dead." Salix moves around some, obviously impatient, "In any case, we certainly don't have time for a theological discussion at this point. Despite Ran's objection, I feel very strongly that Corellon Larethian would object to us using the dead in this way.
Fortunately, I don't think the dead bodies are necessary, Harp has brought living bodies in before, and it seemed that was the goal of that group of brigands last night. Harp, Ran and Mund act as if they've captured us and bring us in bound. We can bring the cart with us and have our armor and weapons on it. If we think it's necessary we can disguise one of us as the cleric from last night.
This has two benefits. One, we're not buried in a pile of bodies if something goes wrong. Two, we're not providing them with more fodder if we fail in our mission.
I don't think this method is any less safe than our original plan. If we disguise one of us as the cleric, then this seems safer to me. If not, then it seems about as safe."
Kal looks to the group, to see what they think.
From: Jason
Subject DR
I have a question concerning damage reduction. I've consulted the PHB 3.0, which was quite clear but left out some critical information, and also the online SRD which is 3.5, and which included the information I wanted but was not at all clear.
If I understand correctly, if someone has DR 5/silver, a silver weapon will do full damage, as will any weapon of +1 or greater. If its DR 5/+3, a +3 or greater weapon will do full damage.
What about DR 5/alignment? Obviously, a DR of 5/good is overcome by a holy weapon, DR 5/law is overcome by an axiomatic weapon, etc. Is it also overcome by a +1 weapon? Or since axiomatic/holy/etc. add a +2 bonus to the weapon, would it have to be +2? Or does the weapon *have* to be aligned to overcome that type of DR, no matter what its enhancement bonus is?
Thanks for your help.
From: Kevin
Subject An alternate plan
Harp has no objection to not taking the bodies. He did not think of bringing them in the first place, so he has no objection to this.
If Karl does not answer (he is leaving on travel and has asked me to take over Salix for a while), I do not believe that Salix will have an issue with this either. It was a good idea to add some extra cover to the plan, but not really needed. He just wants to get a move on and find the Stormfather.
From: Porter
Subject An alternate plan
Mund says "I say we're better off being smart and bringing the bodies for cover than with this elf -- you never know what he'll do to cause us trouble."
From: Mark
Subject DR
Actuall, I am fairly sure that you are off a bit on the rules for DR.
I am using 3.5 rules and have never used 3.0, so here it goes.
You are partially right. If a creature says DR5/silver, silver weapons cause full damage and all other weapons have 5 points of damage taken off. Magic weapons do not by pass this, as far as I know.
DR5/magic is bypassed by any enchanted weapon, even one that has an effect on it such as frost, burning etc.
DR/alingment needs to have a weapon that has the proper alignment.
Now I am fairly sure that a weapon has to have a +1 enchantment on it before any other effects can be added. So there is no such thing as a flaming sword that does not have a +1 bonus to it as well. So Mund has a +1 frost Axe but could not have just a Frost Axe.
I hope that makes sense. If you have any reference for 3.5 that shows differently let me know and I will look into it.
From: Randy
Subject An alternate plan
Ranthir feels the same way as Harp, but will side with Salix over Kal if it comes to it.
From: Kevin
Subject An alternate plan
If Mund is the only person who objects to leaving the bodies behind, Salix will go along with that plan. He will want Surin to show them some knots that look like they are tight but that can be released pretty quickly.
From: Derek
Subject An alternate plan
Allistair doesn't weigh in on the conflict. His body language is pretty obvious that he thinks Kal and Mund are both being idiots and they're wasting valuable time. He's fine using his Polymorph spell to masquarade as the cleric they killed if that's what the group decides to do. However he wants to do it himself, since he saw into his mind the most and therefore feels he can most accurately mimic his speech and actions.
From: Jason
Subject An alternate plan
Ragnar is perfectly happy with Kal's plan; that was the plan we had before we thought of the bodies anyways.